Jim, between the Savage 110 Ultralight and the Weatherby Mark V which would you pick for accuracy? Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. Threaded barrel for a brake. Thoughts? Dont get me wrong. You have probably heard this before but I am not really a hunter, at least not yet. My mossberg patriot shoots like a custom rifle. Both have cold hammer forged barrels 2. Iv shot most all $599.99. Really enjoy your advice and reviews on guns and equipment, I appreciate your opinions. The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. Take your pick but you get a super reliable gun and if you ever broke an extractor or firing pin you can change them out right in the field within minutes. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. $699.00. Hi Jim, I havent tried the Rage yet, but I have used that same action and stock in different configurations. Weatherby Mark V Weatherby makes a fantastic rifle. 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. The also Cerakote the barrel which lowers the need for oiling the metals on your gun, and protects it in rainy or otherwise wet conditions. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". Hey Jim, love your reviews and videos, just wondering when we might start seeing 7mm PRC rifles becoming more available in stores? Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. Or, even better if your choice cost less. Optional Features TSA Recoil Pads TSA recoil pads for LOP adjustment. I came over the years to loath short action rifles. Id love to hear if the model 70 is still relevant. Remember the cheap skates that passed up Colt Pythons when they were only $260 bucks and now are 10 times that. Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. Overall, I think the best three rifles under $1,000 are the Tikka T3X Lite, the Bergara B-14 Ridge, and the Weatherby Vanguard. Great deal. It has the accufit system but they did not put it in that rifle I assume its to save weight. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. After getting what I believe to be a bad copy of a Ruger American in 308, I am looking to upgrade. Shut up Vlad. They are reviewing new rifles not old ones. In my mind, there are only two good options in the sub-$500 price point: (1) The CVA Cascade, and (2) The Ruger American and preferably the Predator version. No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). Obviously your not going to buy one move on. Meet the Franchi Momentum Bolt-Action Rifle. Im sure a video review by you would certainly help clarify and perhaps sway my views on the Sauer 100s. Keep up the good work! Ive narrowed it down to a Sig Cross in 6.5, a JTAC Screech Owl in 6.5 22 barrel. And like most of the rest of the world for that matter. excellent trigger. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. I dont think any mauser action rifles allow you to drop around in because of the claw extractor. I am looking to spend around $1200, and I am between the Savage ultralite and the Howa carbon kratos. Yes, thats five rounds as always. Might want to hold off a month or so. Any tips on bullet weight and powder brand? Why would anyone purchase a rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor when 7mm-08 will do everything the 6.5 can but with a bigger bullet, flatter trajectory, and comparable wind drift at typical hunting ranges? They will be on sale at cabelas this next week, and I havent heard that much about them. Im familiar with it, but havent done an official review. However, I kill a lot of elk where Im from, and my smaller 6.5s dont produce the knock down effect I had with the Weatherby. Best purchase I ever made. On the flip side, a 60-degree throw is often not always, but usually stiffer, and this was the case here. I just have to say thank you I really appreciate your unbiased and honest opinions. Looks like a good buy. A common benefit to a 3-lug design as opposed to a 2-lug design is a shorter bolt throw. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. Boy, so many good 7 mags. It and the Fierce Rogue are tight competitors. Moreover, the firearm boasts an excellent light and smooth trigger. The SIG Cross would be a best second choice. I am looking for an all purpose dependable rifle to handle more than one role. The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. Kimber Mountain Ascent Subalpine I just dont like the Kimber Mountain Ascent. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. Im really interested in the Benelli Lupo, any chance your going to get your hands on one of those? Also, I am 62 and getting tired of the recoil my 7mm Rem Mag and .270 has, would the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC or 7mm-08 be a good alternative? I recently had a chance to sight it in and run everything over the chronograph . Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Keep the good work buddy on your show. What do you think about the CZ 557 line and the new 600s? So how do you really feel? this are what i like long range in a good rifle, with hornady ammo. I was all ready to order the Fierce but I see your post above and now I am on the fence. Any help deciding? Doesnt do it when there is no round in the chamber. In front of the recoil pad, on the bottom of the Momentums shoulder stock, are two molded-in features: a hand groove grip area for holding the stock with ones support hand while shooting from a rest, and a recessed sling swivel mount. keep on the good work and excuse my poor englis. I\m also looking at the Seekins Havak PH2? Solid brass bullet ,which I really like. Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. In fact, I frequently find myself out shooting with a Sig Cross even when I have much more expensive guns that I could be choosing. Surprised you didnt mention anything about the Sako 85. Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. Granted, I got the better tools for measuring how off what they sold is but theres some applications where cheap is better. Availability might be part of the problem. Why I Picked These Three Rifles Over the Competition. Fantastic. The pistol grip is thicker than on many similar stocks, which I appreciate a lot, but at the same time a little more palm swell wouldnt hurt. Thanks Jim Harmer, great video and data to follow. Yes and yes. I loved the way it shot and felt. Thanks. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. I did go looking for the reloading equipment you mentioned and more on acquiring lowers ahead of time, yet unable to find. Manse, he actually has a point this time. You mentioned in your latest live video that youre off the Savage Ultralight these days. x bolt is about 150 or more expensive. Unfortunately now I see it for $1700. My two next rifles will be a Weatherby Mark V and a Sako 85. Its one of the best 3 out of 8 rifles we tested in this price range. Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. it seems well priced at about 600. Base Price: $789.99: Tax: - In Stock: kygunco.com Buy. I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. CVA all the way. I still love wood stocks. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. I have a bunch of ARs and tactical style stuff but sold the only bolt action I had before I ever fired it(Tikka CTR). I would love to hear your thoughts on the savage impulse big game. Excellent 3/4 MOA accuracy with Hornady Precision Hunter ammo, QD Flush cups and picatinny embedded in the stock, Available in all the most popular chamberings for custom rifles (including 7 PRC), I personally would have preferred that they went with a more modern vertical grip, I wish there were an arca rail on the bottom of the forend for connecting to a tripod. Watch my review here. Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? Will be used mostly for white tail and hogs in Texas. Do you still recommend them. I am about ready to purchase the Springfield Waypoint 2020 in 6.5 prc then, i see the Proof Elevation MTR is offered in a 7prc, as is the Rival in a 7prc Watch my full review of the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. I looked at the Tikas as well and for the calibers Im looking at, I just think theyll beat the hell outta my shoulder. I\ve been looking at a lot of your reviews and videos and am wondering if 7mm rem mag might be the best option for a cartridge. With a typical retail price of $549, the Franchi Momentum is a lot of Italian hunting rifle for not a lot of cash. Combing the interwebs just now I see other reviews reporting groups from 0.40 to 2 MOA depending on caliber and ammunition brand/load. Keep up the good work! Just hasnt been available. I am finally biting the bullet and having a custom gun made. A shiny one. I think many of us started on something like that, dads old rifle or grandpas. Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Specifications: Franchi Momentum in .308 Caliber: .308 Winchester (available in five other calibers, too) Capacity: 4+1 Barrel Length: 22 inches Twist Rate: 1:11 Overall Length: 42.3 inches Length of Pull: 14 inches (adjustable with spacers) Trigger: 2-4 lbs, adjustable, single stage Weight: 6.6 pounds MSRP: $609 ( about $450 retail) Some people get a good one, others get a lemon. The Momentum is Franchi's hunting rifle, introduced by the Italian firm in 2018. Would like to buy a Tikka Super Varmint barrel and action with MDT chassis but am also considering Bergara UpR. So far really like it FYI. The Carbon Predator looks cool, but really just a slight variation on the 110 ultralite. Ergonomics * * * * So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? They need to get their stuff together first. It looks to be right @ the very top of weight class Id like, but with the adjustable stock,shape,look & Carbon Barrel, seems to be right in the wheelhouse of what Id like for my larger caliber (wish they had it in .300 PRC) rifle. I would have to agree that no higher end rifle list should ever not have a Mod 70 or a Sako on it. I have been looking at the 6.8 western. Any chance you would do a review on that caliber? Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! Do you have any experience with the Franchi? I rarely hear manufacturing quality concerns about Weatherby rifles. In our testing, the Weatherby Vanguard shot the most accurately, although the difference between it, the Bergara and the Tikka was so small that I doubt we could call it statistically significant. It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. Gun Review: Franchi Momentum Rifle in .308 Win, School Security: As a Parent, Hold Your School Officials Accountable, Campus Carry Celebrates Two Years in Texas, Doomsayer Professors Refuse to Comment, Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Model 317 Kit Gun .22LR Revolver, Oh, The Humanity: Latest Polling Shows a Majority of Americans Now Oppose an Assault Weapons Ban, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine. 1) the quality from rifle to rifle Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. Fastest/flattest 6.5 using 143 gun ELD-X bullets. I have Burris rings for a Tikka T3 base which are basically the same as the Zee rings. It is a three lug 60 deg. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned Manual dont talk about 6.5 Creedmore ! It seems to boast a sturdier stock. Christensen needs to improve its quality control in my opinion. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. Sure, you can have better fit and finish, but it costs more. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. MSRP:$609 (about $450 retail). hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. Helping the Franchi Momentum turn in great groups well, helping the shooter do his or her part better is a wonderful factory trigger. Browning X-Bolt Pro I like the X-Bolt Pro. I see that you really like the Savage, but I was wondering if you have shot the Howa? Torn between CVA cascade or bergara b14 ridge in 7mm-08. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. Great Content. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. Most of the videos I see you get two shots touching and a flier on the mod 70. Store. I ended up buying a Bergara Mountain 2.0, which checked all the boxes for me as a hunting rifle. ISO: 20ga (semi-auto, sxs, and o/u in order of priority), Recommendation for a tarp for my pack - mostly going to use to put quarters on but, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. Accuracy * * * * * Thanks, Joe. My personal Ruger American shoots 0.8 groups consistently. I was down to the Ultralite or the Savage High Country and went with the High Country because of this. In regards to the Howa 1500 I got one in 300 PRC, it had a Houge stock, I installed a Bell & Carlson, put a Konos M30 on top and got a group the size of a 50 cent piece at a 100 yards. I recently purchased a Franchi Momentum 300 win mag w/24 in. Ive shot it twice and didnt like it either time. Seems like a solid gun for the money and straight pull seems fun. After reviewing and owning over 40 bolt-action hunting rifles, here are are the best of the best. I was in the market for an affordable hunting rifle this year and you helped me a lot and changed my mind on my first choice. See also Gluck. Accurate, lightweight, and comfortable with a great trigger, its a solid choice to fill your freezer this season. Am I wrong in my logic? 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. I really like the trigger feel, but it is a little heavy. I have played with many of the rifles you have. I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. Seems that they manage to work loose occasionally. Seems like a lot of bang for the buck. Thank you. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. I can not find on your website. I enjoy watching your videos but havent found any with this specific manufacture. I did achieve the box numbers through hand loading and Magpro powder for the 170 Bergers and Staball 6.5 for the 129 lrx. Stock: A carbon version of Bergaras excellent HMR stock. More velocity with the heavier bullets which by the way do not work so well in the 6.5 Creedmore. I want a lightweight rifle that has mild Recoil with ballistics similar to 270 Winchester but in a short action. Your email address will not be published. Do you have a suggestion for a backcountry hunting rifle that does well with heavy recoil? Thank you for your time and consideration of this request. John did tell me that they are currently working on a fix for the extractor problem. What ammo are you shooting in your cross? The best part of learning how much I love hunting was how little I first put in. Your input has influenced some decision Im making for future hunting rifles and calibers. A fairly vertical pistol grip offers comfortable control from most any shooting position. As a side note, I have a Sako 85 from Cabelas. It just does everything reasonably well. And outside chance of a Bergara HMR or sauer 100 Pantera. I didnt see a Bergara in your list. I do like the 300wm type power but its been a challenge researching top recommendations. The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. Again not a spot of rust. Now they are North of $400. First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Although, I think Vlad is optimistic on price, but you can find a deal. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. In this day and age, there is really no reason to not have a removable magazine that you could top load also. i would like to buy new as its going to be my first rifle so thought with mod . Which leaves Winchester, Weatherby, Tikka/Sako. Watch my review here. Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. I havent heard you talk much about the Seekins rifles, any thoughts on them? One-Piece Picatinny Rail Quick and easy optics mounting. I would love to hear you critique rifle makers that offer nothing left handed in their main lines. An innovative modern design with folding buttstock, pistol grip. Could you please do a review on the Sauer 100 stainless xta. Again a super nice old world crafted gun anyone would be proud to own and show off to friends. Thank you for your great videos especially on moderately priced optics and arms. I mean, this is one heck of a tight group! Some day Ill give one a more fair look. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . I sent my Rival back for repair and after six weeks it came back with the same problem. I have the 2020 waypoint. (Momentum 2018 followed by the Momentum Elite 2019). Im giving the Momentum an extra star above average for the polished, fluted bolt and all the checkered ergonomic areas on the stock that fancy it up a bit. Usage for the rifle would be long distance hobby shooting, but also potentially taking it on everything from whitetail up to moose for a hunt should I ever get in to the sport with my brothers and dad. Id prefer 7mm-08, but 6.5 is the newest kid on the block. Likely sub-half-MOA. If you had a choice between XBolt Pro & Dako finnlight 85 in 300wm what one would you choose. With plain Jane 55 grain hornady soft points and max listed load of H4895, it shoots 1/4 to 3/8 at 100 yards if I lay off the coffee. There are quality inexpensive rifles being made, but if you step up into the $500-$1,000 price range, almost every option will shoot accurately and have more consistent quality control. Appreciate the comment. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. Jan 18, 2020 #3 C clockworkgator The trigger is heavy, but thats true on the Browning XBolts as well. The Tikka T3x has a single-column detachable clip magazine made from a strong fiberglass-reinforced composition. guns.com Buy. I am looking to buy a new rifle and Im between the Franchi Momentum Elite and the Weatherby Vanguard MeatEater edition mainly because of availability. Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . Another group was slightly more evenly distributed but similar in size. I believe the momentum rifle could easily stack up against the models outlined in the under $500 category. As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. I will be hunting suppressed from now on and want to keep my rifle as short as possible. Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. Great rifle. $699.00. Whats the pros and cons in your opinion? Its a great rifle for heavier cartridges. Same as you, I wish the offerings were a bit better. So, here are my quick thoughts on some of the competition for the best premium factory rifle under $2,500. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. Highly recommended. Review: Franchi Momentum .308 Winchester. The Howa is around $200-$300 cheaper than the Savage. Im thinking a 6 creedmoore with a proof carbon barrel, MDT onyx chassis, timmey trigger but cant decide on the action. Launched on the March 2018 cover of Guns & Ammo, the Momentum was actually Franchi's first rifle. Nor did it entirely love the excellent Hornady Black ammo, putting two rounds through the O that I was aiming at and three in another very tight group some distance away. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. Anyway, sorry but I dont have much experience with it. Italy has crazy gun control laws, like most of Europe. Thanks for such a speedy response. Im looking for another LR hunting rifle and was seriously looking at Christianson arms but not so much now. Interested in loading this cartridge. Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. Would like a rifle that print a sub MOA with factory ammo. under 9 lb 7 mm or 300 w m. Jim, I know you are a fierce fan. Non custom rifles are often a hit or miss affair. Overall, it seems like a decent gun for the price. Good Morning Jim Nor do my groups appear to be outliers for the Momentum. You have entered an incorrect email address! I have found a lot of draw backs such as a cramped magazine box that when I tried to seat bullets out there was no room in the magazine to do so therefore I had excess bullet jump into the throat of the barrel, especially older barrels with slightly eroded throats and not being able to seat the bullet out sometimes does not give you the best accuracy. A little heavier than the cross but the little feedback Ive seen has been good. Its like comparing a Kia against a BMW. I try to ruin stuff like this and am always amazed how much it will take. I own one in a 30-06, with 3 safes full of guns, it is my favourite. Assuming a commercially-available cartridge (I\m leaning towards .30-06 Springfield), how would the you stack the two up? You have no opinion worth anything. Customization * * * * I had a question on my first rifle purchase. what makes it a Bergara? I got it in 6.5 creedmoor for deer hunting. I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. I dont see the stock being much different really. So not sure what went wrong with the patriot, and I dont really use the ATR except for friends to use but it is a hell of an accurate rifle. Not many have been around since they are new this year. Thanks for the videos, they have been great! Id probably go with the Weatherby, but both guns will be very accurate. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. That limits my choice of rifles. Overall * * * * Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. In our testing, we had all of the guns chambered alike, but as soon as any of the reviewers shot the Tikka after shooting the other rifles, they all commented that the recoil felt heavier. Really enjoy your channel and dialogue on your reviews. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. Im looking at the Waypoint now. The new Franchi Momentum is darn near an exact copy to the Ruger American. If you just go in the store, they almost never seem to have any good chambering options. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. superbly accurate with federal non-typical 150s (second load i tried). I have been taking in everyone of ur vids I can find and sincerely appreciate your work and am interested in your take on the Seekins product? And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. Im surprised it didnt make the list. Problem with the Savage 110 ultralight is the plastic magazine. Hello from Bozeman, MT! Its for my 3 teenage daughters (all first year deer tag draws) . I am from Canada- and watching your channel for quite a time. (weight) . So happy you out this together as it brings all of your work together and I hope you link to it. It's my 1st long-bolt (actually 2nd, I'd had Win 70 Ultimate Shadow 338 win mag. My experience as well Tim! Full Details. The redesigned rifle includes all the original features that. Also, at least in my area, they are readily available which is a huge bonus right now. Lets weed out a few rifles I DONT recommend first. Can Italian go to a local gun store and buy one (or any firearm) without a government license or permission? Removing the bolt, however, is easier thanks to a release lever located on the side of the action. 3. and three-stage safety. November 29, 2018 By Steve Gash. Hi Jim, In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. What do you think of the Bergara B14 HMR? Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. Not real excited about paying for a custom build so wondering what you would recommend I consider? The sub-$500 version of the CVA Cascade comes with just blued steel. The new Elite versions now feature detachable box magazines, Cerakote metal finishes and stocks wearing popular camo patterns. The reasonwhen Im going to kill an animal, I want to kill it stone deadone well-placed shot. Im well aware that there is stiff competition in the semi-custom rifle category. The stock and barrel is nothing special unless someone could chime in as to why it is different than all the others plastic stocks? Myself being a lefty, I have been on the hunt for a good rifle for midwest deer and western hunting in 6.5 PRC. Fit me like a glove. Savage just came out with a Savage 110 carbon predator. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. Thanks again and I look forward to future content. There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I guess Im looking for an under 2K rifle chambered in a 300 win mag. The only competitor would be a full custom on the amazing MDT HNT 26 chassis. Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. Hey Jim, I think your doing an amazing job on bringing us unbiased information all hunting gear not just rifles. It appears that Fierce is stretching the truth a bit on weight because mine weighs 6 pounds, 4 1/8 oz and its a short action with 24 6.5mm barrel so it should be about the lightest one they have.

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