AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. A small, sleepy town that can quickly become an ally; or an enemy. This is where the NCR sent prisoners to "reform" through hard labor. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. All rights reserved. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. Quests By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. 3 Nygmus 1 yr. ago The powder gang boss in the prison is a nice source of free dynamite forever if you make friends with them. What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do." (Note: Script for Primm reputation exists within the game, but is not used.). BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. That way you keep the bonuses of both, more or less. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Also finish Lonesome road by nuking NCR and legion. Always alone? Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). I never talk to Trudy, and don't even enter the saloon. 2 MauiWowieOwie 1 yr. ago Normal jumpsuit worn with scavenged clothing and equipment from the unfortunate travelers who came across our dear friends at the correctional facility. Plenty of things to do in good ol' Novac to impress the locals. If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. Map Is Fallout new Vegas The Best in the series? Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. Well join the Powder Gangers. Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. He can unlock the door for a price of 100 caps. I have no idea if that works, though. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. Valve Corporation. Fallout: New Vegas. As a Moments subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. I killed some. Funny / Fallout: New Vegas Analysis Awesome Characters FanWorks Fridge Funny Headscratchers Heartwarming Laconic NightmareFuel Quotes ShoutOut TearJerker Trivia VideoGame WMG YMMV GameBreaker Haiku VideoExamples Create New They're dogs. Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. Quest scripts themselves rarely grant Infamy towards factions, but there are a few which do: A town's reputation determines the player character's treatment by the townsfolk. The Followers respond well to charity and acting in the interests of the common wastelander. | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. Privacy Policy. You currently have javascript disabled. Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. Map marker Fame/Infamy are tracked independently of each other. Fame is positive and Infamy is negative. If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. What was your reputation with them at that time? ", Fast traveling to this location can result in a group of wild dogs spawning and attacking if the Courier does not have the. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. Fallout: New Vegas. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). I can still walk into their towns, trade, etc. Fallout: New Vegas location Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. They are going after the wrong objective. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. However, he will continue in casual dialogue as long as one has a good reputation with the gang. Gangers quest is buggedbadly. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . Or alienate them. Well It ried that and it didn't work, screw it I'm just going to kill them all and see if I get the good ending anyway. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. Headwear is found in articles of matching armor where possible. But their mines are good tho. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. I end up shunned or hated, but I can still enter the NCRCF and do Eddie's quest. It worked for me. In the table below, these are colored green, black, and red respectively. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Their biggest raid occurred on Sloan, where they stole an entire cache of dynamite used by the workers to mine Quarry Junction. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". The facility is also under observation from the. I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The largest post-nuclear nation state offers plenty of opportunities for good people to shine and brutal retaliation to its enemies. As if there's anything in this game that's not incomplete. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. For more information, please see our I never saw much reforming around here, myself. Exterior Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. If you don't kill any you don't get vilified. I only start in Goodsprings occasionally. This happened to me when I was vilified. gamespot.comgiantbomb.commetacritic.comfandom.comfanatical.com, Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReportAd. 1. If you need to kill them, do it while hidden. Valve Corporation. Since he is not part of the Powder Ganger faction, he will not attack even if the Powder Gangers in the room become hostile. Hostile is different. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. A positive reputation is required to receive the. For specific low-level range values for various factions, see the talk page. The leader of the local Powder Gangers, Eddie, will be killed if one sides with the NCR or can be saved if they help the Powder Gangers. shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! If you manage to have the Goodsprings NPCs deliver the killing blows on the Powder Gangers during the shootout then you'll only end up being Shunned. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? You can get infamy with the Powder Gangers, and if have a mod that fixes the bug where the Powder Gangers faction wasn't given evil karma, you can steal from them without a karma penalty. Warden's terminal https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. [Non-game 1] However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River despite the warden's objections. ? The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. Is this how it should be? Helping them is way better than help good springs. However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). --------------COMPATABILITY-------------- (Many cops in real life are facing the same judgement too.) [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. It's an interesting bug, one I have no idea how I produced. Short of either eliminating them entirely or using console commands, probably not. The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). (Really early spoilers, I guess? Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). The player character can also ignore Pearl's request. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. For example, if killing a Powder Ganger while wearing a uniform of theirs, it might reset all faction reputations. At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise. Another advantage is that this mod causes less bloat, by altering less entries. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. What I always do is during Ghost Town Gunfight, I only kill 3 or 4 of the Powder Gangers. Donate doses of either Med-X, Fixer, RadAway (+1 per dose, up to +3 at a time if the maximum amount of multiple doses are given at once). Please present your passport. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. Factions provide the following benefits/consequences with adequate reputation: In addition, one's reputation with the major factions affects the kind of Courier duster that is received at the end of Lonesome Road. What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. Where do you find the key for the 2nd floor of the broadcast building at Black Mountain? [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. - posted in New Vegas Discussion: So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall. Telling Marjorie that the player "eat[s] people, too" (-1). The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. Reputation in Fallout: New Vegas is a measurement of how the different factions in the Mojave Wasteland perceive the player character. Should the player character approach Dawes in disguise, he will notice that they are not an actual Powder Ganger and tell them so. and our Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? Joe Cobb): Buildings Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Also, assuming you care about what your reputation is with the Powder Gangers, the reputation reduction you by killing them in the quest hardly affects anything regarding the three or four quests regarding the Powder Gangers. All of these will be compatible with this mod. How do I do that? Other reputations are unaffected. The New California Republic Correctional Facility (commonly abbreviated to NCR Correctional Facility or NCRCF) and known before the war as the Jean Conservancy,[Non-game 1] was an NCR prison located southeast of Goodsprings that currently acts as the main settlement of the Powder Gangers and a staging point for raiding the local area in 2281. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. Best way to do their storyline is to do it before the goodsprings quest or get everything for the people of goodsprings and have them kill the powder gangers. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment negatively on each of them (-1). But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. The following is based on Fallout: New Vegas cut content. Visitors centerNCR CF administrationCell block ACell block B Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. Be violent enough and fit right in. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. Alternatively, you could acquire an NCR uniform to disguise yourself and try if you can then talk to Dusty or even Andy about their quests. Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. All rights reserved. You see, Joe Cobb is part of a larger chain-gang called "Powder Gangers" and has a smaller gang ready to attack the town of Goodsprings. Tai Scott. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to neutral or positive standing. Weird. New California Republic (formerly)Powder Gangers This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. Carter You know, what you are talking about was actually intended to be in the game but was cut. IS there a way to stop beig vilified from the powder gangers. I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Cass to be recruited as a companion again, despite her possible angered departure beforehand which caused her to leave. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. Basically the same problem I had. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. Factions Hostile is different. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. All rights reserved. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. Points are accumulated by various means. Scrambler, Hannigan, and four unnamed Powder Gangers can be found in this building as well. If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. Page 1 of 3 - Shunned with NCR but they still dont attack me?

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