First is for 357 mag & 38 sp. The S&W 627 Prois an 8-shot .357 Magnum DA/SA. I have used a model 66 starting in 1985. It was first introduced in 1934 and serves as the foundation of the Magnum Era.. I still regularly take it to the range and it is very accurate and can handle a heavy load with no problem. A fella can dream, though, Now they have the 350 Legend and yes .. Ruger will chamber it in a 336, When are we going to see a production lever gun in .357 Max, got money on the table. It's my all time favorite gun. Be sure to read all about the K6s in our review! Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. Our .357 Magnum pistol: a 1980s Smith & Wesson Model 686 with a 4 barrel. You will get better accuracy in rapid-fire on the second and third shots. My favorite is the 686! he is just trying to say not everybody is as knowledgable as you. I bought my heavy vented rib model with 3 barrels (2.5", 4" and 8") back in early '70s (1974 I think). I have zero complaints about the Windicator. i love my Trooper MK3..love my ugly ole glock 31/.357sig too.. I was also interested to learn about the different types of ammunition that are available. For target practice, I still recommend using .38 Special ammo to save money. First up, we have the Smith & Wesson Model 627 Pro, which is what comes to mind when I think of a revolver chambered in .357 Magnum. Also, the Python is just too iconic to not mention. Good to know. I am a highly prejudicated in favor of larger caliber revolvers (smallest being a S&W .38 w/ 4.5" barrel) for what i call the three H's- Hunt, Hit, and Hurt- bringing down food, accuracy/proficiencey with the firearm (obviously needed for H1and H2) and puttin the hurt on evildoers up to no good (Home invasion, self and others personal safety etc) I've never had one jam, stovepipe, fail to feed etc My 357 of choice is a Ruger Blkhwk w/ 6.5 bbl I also own two 41 mags, a Ruger and a S&W ,both have 8 3/8" bbls- slight edge to the Smith for quicker reloading- 2 Colt 45 long 6" and 1 has a 4.5 AND just for shits n giggles 2 Heritage Ruffies a 6.5 and a 9 inch both with 22lr and 22 mag cylinders Not to worried bout the ol' CCL aspect I enjoy the article and the other replies to each to their own. Smith and Wesson 629-6, 4 inch barrel and a Winchester 1892 with a 20 inch barrel. But it can be argued that the gun the GP-100 was derived from, the Security-Six, was a vastly superior gun. Magnum LRM 30-06 Springfield LR 30-223 Remington SR 30-284 Winchester LR 303 British LR 303 Savage LR 30-30 Winchester LR . One caveat: my .357 carbine is nicely accurate, but the point of impact varies greatly depending on the ammunition being fired. It weighs six pounds and holds 5+1 rounds. Gov, according to a friend of mine that is a student of these things, the 44-40 was a favorite of the cowboys. Ruger also offers a 4.2-inch model that sports a fiber optic front sight and adjustable rear sight. Looks better, feels better, and shoots better Not to mention it was over 100 bucks cheaper. Weve got a dedicated section for the AR-15 here. 158-grain lead SWC handloads, filled with 5.7 grains of Unique. guns & It is a stainless steel N large-frame revolver with a 4-inch custom underlug barrel. (DAO104) Outdoorsman Holster for my 4 Ruger Sec Six and it fits great. The S&W and Ruger names speak for themselves. The model 627 Tracker has been one of the nicest shooting revolvers I've fired. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. All in all, its an excellent concealed-carry revolver if you want a lot of firepower in a small package. The 300-grain, .375-inch diameter bullet has an SD of .305, making it a sound choice for dangerous game work (an SD figure of .300 or higher is generally accepted as a good weight for the largest mammals). You left out the best .357 revolver on the market. The GP-100 is heavier and larger than the SP101, but it helps to stabilize the gun and control recoil. I've also owned a .30 Cal Carbine and I love it. There is no "proven stopping power" for a particular caliber gun. But that works out pretty well because I just move the rear sight up or down a notch and both loads hit right on target. I was issued an M16 upon arrival to the 9th ID and we had two M3A1s on our tank (my favorite weapon for APs and LPs). The 350 legend is actually a 9mm not the same as a 357. A little game where each player hits the soda can while its still moving. The 2.25-inch and 3-inch models offer synthetic black grips, front ramp sight, and fixed rear sight. Thanks! Hahahha, is that your "professional" opinion? is a great cartridge. They have a snub nosed (2in) and full sized (6in) revolvers. Looking closely I believe the problem was the previous owner had flipped the wheel into the gun with a flick of the hand quite a few times causing the damage (NEVER do this with your revolver despite it being a rather satisfying feeling and it being ubiquitous in the movies.) To simulate the carry .357 Magnum ammo, use .38 Special +P or low velocity .357 Magnum ammo. The first of the 'Magnum' pistol cartridges, it was a big hit. The 158-grain .357 JSP produces less energy, but it might be a better cartridge for medium-sized game at modest ranges because the bullet itself is less prone to fragmenting at these velocities. Having shot some stuff with some stuff my observations have been a .4d4 mag and 3030 are pretty close in killing. The .357 Sig is perhaps the most common one not a "magnum". . The extra 1/8" in case is purely and simply so that one cannot chamber a .357 cartridge in a revolver chambered for 38 special. 300 Weatherby Magnum-65,000: 357 Sig-40,000: 264 Win Magnum-64,000: 300 Rem. That turns into a 9-25% advantage in favor of 7mm Rem Mag at 500 yards. Beautiful to stare at and to shoot. The 15-2 is still available on the used market and at a reasonable price. T. The Magnums cost $1.50 per round, while the SIG costs $1.20 per round. I have a Henry Big Boy Steel .357 leaning in the corner right now, ready to use if need be. It handles .357 mag with a 2 inch barrel like a beast. What the hell is that!!Usually so,meone else answer s for me. It's a wonderful revolver and quite reasonably priced, either new or used. Actually its a pretty simple takedown compared to field stripping some handguns in my opinion. I believe dan wesson should be on the list as well they had an innovative design of being able to swap barrels. It is a good idea to keep the ball rolling in the middle of the racetrack, which allows you to easily move to the left or the right to evade the obstacles. The S&W model 19 and SS version 66 was/is one of the best law enforcement sidearms of all time. In fact, I have grown fond of 3" barrels. Watch out! While both are high-quality cartridges, each has its strengths in certain situations. The .357 has a longer case than 10mm, but 10mm Auto has a larger diameter. Also, glad you at least mentioned Taurus even though they didn't make the list. They can move left or right automatically and their position is unpredictable. It is such a pleasure to shoot I have no problems dumping 200 rounds through 'er during a range session. i wondered why he did put the 327 performance center on here 627 comes in and the performance center also. i pair a s.bhawk with a 16 94ae in .44mag. Uh, couple more you left out, Charter Arms, Chiappa, Wesson Arms, etc. And am in love with it. Shooting the 158-grain .38 Specials, the revolver clocked a leisurely 676 fps and 160 lb-ft. How substantial? You feature the Manurhin as a high-end revolver and omit the Korth/Night Hawk in your discussion-review of .357's. My friend retired as a Lt. I own a Ruger Blackhawk 61/2 stainless,, a S&w model 19-4,, and have sold off the two snubby .357s I dont really miss the EAA,, but wished I wouldnt have sold my Taurus 606 to my cousin. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. and has been a faithful sidearm with no complaints. All winds up one smooth, muscle-memorized motion if, God forbid, I ever had to use that skill in a defensive situation.) And yet the Security-Six is missing from the list and the GP-100 is on it. One also must consider whether today's .357 Magnum revolvers are as good as or worse than the giants upon whose shoulders they stand. The .38 Special case has plenty of volume. Penetration: 18.1 But the companys first .357 Magnum revolvers wouldnt show up until 1934. If you don't own one, you should. Ammo kinetic energy and shot placement determine what we call "stopping power", not the gun. 25 after seeing how much the value has gone up and it's not original. Answer (1 of 14): There are several chamberings in "357". and have never had a problem with any of them. But to be honest if I'm packing a cowboy shooter, its gunna be in .45 long Colt. Not much else to say. Their prices are still reasonable, but they are starting to climb, as the name start to get respected again. Not good. Size Difference Between 30.06 vs 308. . I have one, 6 inch barrel, don't shoot with my Dan Wesson that also has a 6 inch barrel. It has an 18 round barrel, weighs a little over six pounds, and holds 9+1 rounds. .30-30 is better at deer hunting. Might need to get rid of it because of hand issues. It also comes with a second cylinder that is for 9mm giving you access to the most popular revolver and semi auto cartridges in one firearm. Anything further is just gravy. But switched to a Model 25 45 acp to be able to use moon clips. I also own a Ruger LC9 9mm, and its nice as well. Join Our Community. I mean, if we are talking cowboy chic and rifle caliber matching ones sidearm. They are most accurate at less than 1,000 yards. If youll be doing your shooting at anything but short ranges, you should find a good load and stick with it. Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:04 pm Location: southern Maine. Black powder occupies a far greater volume than smokeless. For uses other than big-game hunting, .357 Magnum carbines have other benefits which have nothing to do with ballistics. For small frame revolvers, I dont recommend always shooting heavy-loaded, Its possible to wear out or break important parts of the revolver under these loads. Series. SJHPs for defensive use and they hit about 8 high at 100 yards compared to the 150gr. I have an old model 19 and just recently started shooting again. great unknown May 14, . My service arm was a Ruger Security 6. If price is of no concern nor is nationality, how could the Rhino be left out? .357 mag, .22lr, and the dirty-30. And when this article was written S&W were producing their new K frames that have been reinforced through the forcing cone area. A lot of the discussion here deals with trying to fit a CCW profile with the 357 even though the caliber has many first tier uses. no just the 627 almost the same gun so he used that one, and i agree with that choice. The 270 Winchester fires a .277" diameter bullet while its larger brother fires a .308" diameter bullet. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .327 Federal Magnum vs .357 Magnum ammo rounds. .50. I own a Taurus model 608 stainless 8 Shot .357 magnum 4 inch barrel. I have always thought the M1 carbine was a good idea at the time for its intended purpose. or 45-70. Thank you. I love mine! Amazingly smooth action. While the .357 Mag. And stay in touch with newsletters of our best articles on techniques, guns, & gear. I have the Ruger SP-101 with the 2.25" inch barrel and the rubber grip with the finger grooves that gives you someplace to put your pinky finger. You can carry them concealed easily with a 4-inch barrel if you wear loose clothes, and they also conceal well in a fanny pack. It shoots both .38. It should have been drifted out and set aside when the Williams was installed, but it wasnt. They show that the .357 Mag is far and away the most popular with close to the total votes. You cant spray and pray like you might with a semi-auto, but these little guns are very quick. The N frame is the largest frame used for the S&W .357 Magnum revolvers. Now then, you throw the same loadings into a 16 AR9 theres a 140fps margin in favor of the Blue Dot! And the Ruger GP100 7-shot with 4 barrel. .308 Winchester or .30-06. With Remington 125-grain JHPs, the revolver got 1442 fps and 537 lb-ft. i like my Tarus 357 mag with a 4inch barrel .it might be some cheaper but it handles good and its accurate. mitigates recoil and muzzle lift. It is available in blued and stainless steel finishes and a variety of barrel lengths with the 4.2-inch and 6-inch offerings being the most popular. Love all of them. The Winchester Trapper, with its slightly shorter barrel, gave us the following numbers with .30-30 ammo: With the loads we tested, the extra barrel length of the .357 carbine paid handsome dividends. Beautiful gun and nice action but shooting heavy loads one handed makes my hand slide up the back. That was the only issue I've ever had. The Manurhin MR73. You left out the very best .357 Magnum revolver: the Smith and Wesson 686 plus. One of the GP-100's claims to fame is its robustness. The blow back system is under a LOT of pressure. Closest to the Taurus. It is very important for every business to stay competitive Using the same case head diameter of the .223 Remington at a length of 1.71-inch, the 350 Legend uses a .357-inch diameter bullet, for a combination that is very easy on the shoulder while being effective downrange. Currently they sell for 3-5k USD. It's also great looking gun. $1189.00 . I was lucky enough to grow up with .357s available to shoot and since then it has always been my go to cartridge. These revolvers weigh between 25 to 60 ounces empty. It should read 977. I own 4 357s, SW Model 19- SW Model 686+1, SW Model 586 Distinguished Combat Magnum and a Model 66. Its possible to wear out or break important parts of the revolver under these loads. But in this case we are looking at two different . Bought a security 6 (4" barrell) about a year ago. I too have been a big fan of Taurus. You have the date incorrect on the release of the Ruger GP100. The reliability and durability of the SP101 in conjunction with its smaller size make this a great choice for backpackers, hikers, and other outdoors enthusiasts. I had heard at one point that the Python's have the most moving parts of any revolver on the market which is one reason for their feel. chill out seal team six. Very accurate with little recoil. What is your opinion of this pistol and what do you estimate its value to be in excellent to new con dition.. Less than a box of shells has been fired through it.. You forgot the Dan Wesson. Hi, just got the 357 Magnum bug. The .357 Magnum basically doubles its kinetic energy when its fired from a carbine, and it almost earns a promotion to the Big Leagues of rifle ballistics. He kept the revolver but sold me the rifle. Chiappa Rhino should be on this list. I have sold my others over the years,, many of which I would love to have kept so Ive decided to get ones I want and I dont want to sell. You pretty much have to hunt in a manner that gives you a very accurate shot. Additionally, the .327 Magnum revolver will not only be easier to shoot faster and more accurately, but it will also hold . I was in my twenties and knew nothing. Go to revolvers then type .357 magnum. and (Speed Six in Stainless). All of my barrels are heavy vented rib. gear. Without a doubt, the 357 Magnum kicks 9mm butt when it comes to effective range, energy on target, and wind drift. Call me "Old Fashioned"(and that would be correct, as I am an old man)but I will take my Model 66, 3" Stainless over ANY of the revolvers listed. The .30-06 is a longer round (as in around half an inch longer). its all subjective and opinions we all have them just like a holes. You have entered an incorrect email address! Another fine revolver that should have been mentioned is the Dan Wesson.357 Magnum. price range, or lower, than Taurus, they can be found at $300 or lower even. Yay .357 revolvers! Model 627 Pro in .357 Magnum. I regularly carry my Windicator when in situations where deep concealment isn't a necessity (OWB under winter clothing will be fine; it'll stick out a bit in light clothing; IWB appendix carry is possible and the most concealed position available. For a small person, it fits me like a glove and is a beast that with the right ammo can do any kind of shooting you want to do. For me the only guns that compete in terms of my own accuracy at self-defense range would be my 1911 and S&W revolvers. The 2.25-inch and 3-inch models offer synthetic black grips, front ramp sight, and fixed rear sight. This gun is FABULOUS! This is a great gun. ever made, the Ruger Security Six. Not much was mentioned about it in your article. It comes factory-tuned from S&W with a few extra features like a fiber-optic front sight and an even smoother trigger. The Trooper was a steal as someone didn't know what they had. Type your new password and hit button below to confirm it. Im still partial to a S&W 13-3 I have and it has a lot of miles on it. But I have an AR-15 in the next corner just in case. Additionally, 125 grain 38 special +P (~1250 fps) hits point of aim at 25 yards with this zero. I suppose articles like this are of great importance for the simple minded who are clueless theres a huge difference between rifle and pistol ammunition and have never taken the time to read the specific ballistic data printed right on new ammunition boxes containing 30-30 or 357 cartridges, or notice that 30-30 brass is a lot BIGGER than 357 mag brass, or are oblivious to the abundance of ballistic info 101 that can be accessed online in seconds. The short-barreled .30-30 did not produce obnoxious muzzle blast or excessive recoil; in fact it exhibited no particular vices at all other than its sighting apparatus. You can certainly do it with .45 Colt and rifle powder to get a slower burn rate, at least out of a modern firearm but not an original. . My current marlin (1998) with Ballard rifling is more accurate than my previous Marlins with microgroove rifling with any bullet type. And a Ruger BH ss 6 1/2 brl. .357 mag Remington 180 gr SJHP fired from S&W Model 13 4 revolver and from Rossi M92 16 carbine through four layers of denim into calibrated gelatin. The Ruger GP-100 is a 6 or 7-shot .357 Magnum revolver with a DA/SA medium frame revolver. The Most Hated AK on the Market: The Riley Defense RAK-47 - Full Review . It seems a little odd that the best selling revolvers in the history of the world,some of which are still being manufactured,are obsolete but 2 discontinued and very expensive used Colts are recommended. The .308 has a slight accuracy advantage, while the .30-06 can be modified to rival the power of some magnum loads. (Both were FMJ rounds from Tula Ammo.) True dat, but that kind of defeats the purpose of the matching caliber pistol/rifle combo. Billed as the lightest 6-shot revolver, the K6s weighs in at around 23 ounces. N-Frame. Both great guns but Ruger holds the edge. Easily a thousand through it. There are NO sharp edges anyhwere and it comes in 2, 3 & 4 inch barrels. With 9mm there's barely any detectable recoil. Recoil is extremely mild even with the stoutest loads, so that the XS ghost ring sights never even leave the target; you just keep working the lever and blazing away until you run out of ammo (not likely) or until your tin can bounces away out of sight. 125-grain SJHP handloads filled with 17.0 grains of Vitavhouri N-110, a slow-burning magnum pistol powder. Work for 2-3 hours in y0ur spare time and OO get paid 1200 0n y0ur bank acc0unt every week, Get more inf0rmation 0n f0ll0wing site .. I also owed a Ruger Blackhawk w/6 1/2 barrel. ALWAYS will be. If it crashes into the wall of the tunnel, the run is over. Effective. This rifle will be used for varmint hunting. I sure tames the recoil, but I didn't care for the trigger. Both rifles feature pokedle fnaf tubular magazines, a top-mounted toggle-style action, and a barrel that rotates on a hinge to allow for manually-cocking the hammer. loads. The cylinder design is great. Revolvers tend to recoil more, all else being equal, and the .357 Magnum is mostly a revolver cartridge. Have had a stainless 4" barrel Ruger GP 100 down here in Australia (50 yard range use, no Concealed Carry Permit possible here), for about five years, and can attest to the solid build and reliability of the gun. In the words of Gunblast writer Jeff Quinn Quote: " The 357 Magnum out of a carbine barrel is a whole different animal than the same cartridge fired from a four or six inch revolver. Ruger SP101, 3-inch barrel. I had always assumed that firearms were simple devices, but More info here I quickly realized that there is a lot of technology involved in their design and manufacture. I dont have anything else but I think thats enough to get it done. Of which Id say the Savage 99 is by far my top pick for accuracy in a lever gun. 300 AAC vs 9mm AR Rifle Ballistics Comparison. The 160-grain Leverevolution will deliver the goods at ranges out to 300 yards, although itll cost you a buck a shot. Please enter a valid email address . But many reviewers pass over the facts that the earlier Security-Six also was incredibly sturdy, plus it was lighter. GP100 .357 Magnum #1702 Details. Diamondback videos make it look like a piece of cake but if you notice, the person has every finger of both hands doing its job at once either holding on to the spring tension so the gun doesnt implode under spring pressure while trying to slip a small intricate part into its tiny intricate slot. 38 S&W SPECIAL +P . The quicker the animals demise"_ I think my theroy applies to the 30 carbine verses 357 Mag also. *.30 Remington has entered the chat* . Long live the mighty K frame. Nope, y'all missed this one.The S&W 66-2 is the Finest .357 Revolver. I couldnt put the Rhino down fast enough. When and if I get some of these to test Ill post the results, but for big game Id still rather have a .30-30. I own S&w revolver, model 586-3 and i Shoot on competitions. If money isn't an object, this is the best. Considering the diverse ammunition loads available, it is easy to find one that works for you. I read this article back in 2011 as a mostly uninformed firearms novice and new owner of a Marlin .30-30, and learned quite a bit from it. Handgun hunters use the cartridge to take game up to the size of small deer. Your 92 model. Over the years I have owned most of the 357 Mag Revolvers you listed and since I reload I have put a lot of lead through them. Ruger also offers a 4.2-inch model that sports a fiber optic front sight and adjustable rear sight. 357 Magnum . I read your blog its really informative for me I also share this article with my friends keep it upheart touching poetry in Urduthanks for sharing. You will be horrified. Guess I just love that Wesson name. Taurus model 608 Eight shot .357 magnum 4 barrel stainless. However, I did recently find the Taurus Tracker 692. Get proficient on YOUR time. both good weapons.I have a 686 with a 4 barrels.I have had it close to 30 years,and still love it.Even today when I unlimber it at the range with full power a,MMO the range ,someone is bound to come up,and say #1. It is a bit heavy in weight but, with an excellent OWB holster, it can be carried concealed. . Fortunately, understanding the conversions between metric and imperial for handgun calibers is quite a bit easier because there are far fewer common pistol cartridges than there are rifle cartridges. I have a mid eighties Dan Wesson 357 mag 6 inch barrel ventilated rib (model is 13 V). However, the .380 does a good job with shot placement. I have to admit though, that a 2.5" barrel is a bit silly. The latter is an ideal range gun, but it can't compete accuracy-wise with the S&W 686 (which is far more accurate and which isn't even on the list), and when it left the range, it wasn't very useful except as a drawer gun and a paperweight. But not quite. It features a fixed rear sight, brass bead front sight, and Hogue Overmolded rubber grips, While heavier than the standard Colt Cobra, the extra weight. He is also an avid competitor, reloader, and all-around firearms aficionado who can help you learn more about almost every aspect of shooting and caring for firearms. I find .30-30 at Wally World for $14 a box, which I have to admit, is dandy all things considered. Hollow point ammunition works only in a narrow velocity range. But not quite.. Hornady makes a .357 Magnum 140-grain Leverevolution that claims to get 1850 fps and 1064 lb-ft from an 18 carbine. 30-06 Springfield-60,000: 38 Special-17,000: 260 Remington-60,000: 300 H & H : No PSI Std. I have a couple blackhawks and they are fine guns that will last a lifetime super strong. That 2000 fps 357 mag load is 1100 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle. It is a semiauto pistol round, while the .357 Magnum is a revolver round. ), it looks just like a Colt .357 Magnum Python and it comes in 2inch and 4inch, not 6 as you stated. The MR73 is the most exacting and high-end production revolver ever made. 8. Even for self defense Id stick with 158s in a .357 rifle. Go get some full-power .357 loads with 158 to 170 grain bullets and compare them to the similar weight .30-30 ones. TTAG must be hard up for subject matter. Internal construction can differ depending on the type of bullet and purpose. I we had them for for years. Pure and simple. The 27-2 is very nice. Even a Mauser 98 is childs play to take apart and reassemble compared to any lever gun. Finally, theres the J Frameprobably one of the most popular styles of revolvers. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. Lets talk a little about the various frame sizes you can expect to see when shopping. My longest shot was approximately 123 yard shooting a souped up Hornady xtp round. If I had younger eyes, I could push the distance further. Tried a few different grips but not a lot of selection for that model, but it deserves to be on there being the first revolver with the transfer bar. The carbine achieved 944 fps and 313 lb-ft, a 40 percent increase in velocity and a 96 percent increase in energy. Smith & Wessons lighter K frame Model 19 was released in 1957 developed to meet the special needs of law enforcement. The best current production available, especially the 5 inch 686 performance 7 shot revolver. BTW, I have the SS 6-shot models in 4" and 6", and find both to be superb handling, practically indestructable revolvers. I think you forgot about Taurus just like a publication like this the only put up the front most popular names. I have heard from my local gun dealer that they can easily pull $3,000. I have a python also bought 30 years ago at about 650.00 ( also bought a security six for about 1/3 of that if I remember right). 357 Automag LP 357 Herrett LR 357 Magnum SPM 357 Maximum SPM 357 Sig SP 358 Norma Magnum LRM 358 Winchester LR 35-8mm Remington Magnum LRM 375 Dakota LRM 375 H&H Flanged I thought his.30 carbine to .357 mag. Probably, the better compromise is a bullet that holds together at rifle velocity even though it will be just a solid slug at revolver velocity. Thats the beauty of hand loading. And I like that some loads, like Buffalo Bore 180 grain equals or surpasses standard.30-30 loads under 200 or so yards. At 500 yards, the various .30-06 loads have about 7-10 (~20%) more bullet drop than comparable 7mm Rem Mag loads. CRAZY! Its ballistics are inferior to the .30 Carbine..357 Magnum - This is a revolver cartridge adequate for shooting deer to about 50 yards. Thanks,Tad. I loaded it myself using 180 grain bullets and Hodgkins h110 powder.

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